Adobe changes

John King said:
The requirement to have the uprated GPU which is when they predict some of my facilities with adobe on the present equipment will fail to operate as normal. Their words, not mine, so I cannot make it any clearer, they are just too vague. As I said before they have stated:- The ability to use Camera Raw conversion will still work but the tools that come with the plug in, will not!
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To make it easier to understand.

Minimum Memory: 8GB
  • 1.5 GB of GPU memory
  • *** GPUs less than 7 years old. GPUs older than 7 years are not supported
  • Monitor at 1280 x 800 display at 100%
  • 20 GB of available hard-disk space
*** If you are using an older graphics card or driver, GPU functionality in Photoshop may be limited or not supported.
The limitation will be based on what you are trying to do (for simple photo editing, I doubt you will need GPU)

The new AI may require GPU when finalised and you may not be able to take full advantage of this.

RAW will not be affected but if you have disabled updates ( you will not get any bug fixes or enhancements )

So to me in your case, if you do not want to buy a new laptop, and are not that concerned about any upcoming new features, just ignore the warning.

I attend regular Beta Meetings and nothing has been said about cutting people off altogether just because they have an outdated Video card
 
The last sentence of your last post flies in the face of what I was told when I rang adobe to enquire about what the warning would mean. They have nothing to gain by telling their customers that Armageddon is imminent. The only people who would gain are the manufacturers and sellers of updated equipment.
However like you suggested I will plod on with what I am using until (if) it goes belly up.
Oddly my desk top has not had the same warnings as I received on the laptop. Perhaps it may be because it has had a more recent Graphics card fitted about a year ago after the previous one failed. I simply do not know.

The only RAW updates that I have received recently were to accommodate the later camera releases.
 
Ian,

Any chance of your translation and assessment please - plain English, not Geek-Speak.
 
I'm going through the same crisis. If I want to use PS to its fullest potential, I have to buy a whole new system. Here in Canada that ain't cheap. So I discontinued my subscription to Adobe—at least for now.
 
It is looking like all I will loose is the tools which are used for camera raw which I do find very useful. On the other hand I can install Photoshop Elements which does have RAW and use that to do what I need to then go over to Photoshop but that is not what I want and is both awkward and inconvenient. Would elements do all I need for a one off payment-I don't know. Non of my Digital cameras/scanner are cutting edge so I could just cut to the chase and abandon PS all together and use one of the other systems.
If Adobe do this to probably countless users world wide (and not all will be able to afford to upgrade at the drop of a hat) then they may loose the good will and subscriptions of a lot of customers.
 
Its just a fact of life with Technology.

In 2020, I had the same issue and it cost me just short of £500 to upgrade the desktop

Now in 2023, If I want the latest Apple OSX features planned for autumn, I will have to upgrade the Apple Mac at a cost of £1900
 
John King said:
It is looking like all I will loose is the tools which are used for camera raw which I do find very useful
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And this is the key. RAW processing nowadays is not just a matter of converting to a raster format (TIFF/JPEG/etc). Noise reduction is far more effective when done during de-mosaïcing, as are an increasing number of adjustments. But all this requires power and lots of it.

We were moaning about the cost of having to upgrade our iMac for DxO PhotoLab but, thinking about it for a few minutes, we realised that we bought it in 2012 and, amortising the price over 11 years, ends up at around £150 per year.

Of course, using PhotoLab instead of Photoshop does mean that the only penalty we are paying at the moment is having to wait longer when exporting finished images. Regular editing seems to be just as fast as it has always been.

So, the iMac will give way to a Mac Mini for about £1249 and reuse a secondary 27" screen, available because I am upgrading my screen to the new Apple Studio.

Included in this particular upgrade is the new Apple M2 chipset, which makes the whole machine blazingly fast - much faster than my 2019 16" Intel MacBook Pro.
 
At a quick thought I would miss the 'Texture, 'Clarity' and 'Dehaze'. I realise I will be able to get around them with other tools in P.S. but they are quick and effective. When they were 1st introduced perhaps 3-4 years ago they made it very much easier to get the effect I wished for. There are others such as the 'Black' slider and others I cannot immediately recall until I see them.
Then there is the ability to take the images in RAW and do the main adjustments without blowing highlights or blocking shadows.

Not a lot I know to make such a fuss about, but I bet they won't reduce my subscription when I am no longer able to access camera raw!

When a particular model of a car is given a face lift, the old one just doesn't get sent to the scrapyard does it?
 
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Sorry Ian I am the eternal sceptic, I will believe it when I see it. Why post a warning if it isn't going to happen?
 
As yet I have not had any warnings on my desktop so it may be OK for the present. My graphics card on that machine failed a couple of years ago and a replacement was fitted. I was told then that the old type was not available to replace like for like so the new replacement may well be adequate. This may have been a forewarning which Ididn';t then understand I am not at home at present but when I get back on Saturday I will check to see if it is compatible.
 
John King said:
I looked and it is £90
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£67.99 I think John. https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/photo/ and scroll to the bottom.

The universal license (£160) includes two other applications: Publisher (for designing books) and Designer (for graphics) but neither are necessary for photo editing.

I am not endorsing Affinity Photo, although I do use it as my main editor and have found it suits my needs. For the sake of completeness I should point out I haven't used other editing applications and cannot tell how well Affinity compares to them. There is a bit of a learning curve to make the best of it although I understand the user interface is similar to Photoshop. A thirty day trial is available.
 
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In which case why do they not make it completely clear what will and will not happen.. They know because they wrote the programme, but I and many other are not mind readers.
 
If you are not in a position to upgrade your hardware, then my advice is to "Ignore The Warning" and tick the option to not show the message again.

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If sometime in the future you find a feature or features that you rely on no longer work and you cannot be without them, then you know that the time has come to upgrade the Laptop.
 
I was about to post the exact same pop up. I suppose I still have my big computer to work with should it all go belly up. We will see.
Thanks Ian for your patience.
 
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