All That Jazz (and Bluegrass)

Call it what you want, construct it how you like, it is still abhorrent to my taste, which is why I use such fine grain film.

Once again, our tastes differ but yours seems to prevent you seeing the beauty in an image that isn't "grungy" ;)

More importantly, my clients, both for my own prints and those I make for other photographers are very happy with the results I give them and are quite happy to pay me for them.
I am not constructing anything, it is what it is, also, to suggest that my picture is abhorrent because it was taken on Trix not only is rather condescending and rude but can I remind you that some of the world's greatest images were taken on 35mm Kodak Trix.

I love images with very fine grain, Acros is one of my chosen slow films, I have taken hundreds of images on it, so once again your assumption that I like only "grungy" images is wrong.
 
I'm surprised that a 45mp file from a D850 at 4000asa should need any noise reduction applied to it

What you can't see in a post like this, with such low resolution limits, is the noise that gets removed from deep shadows. DeepPRIME is an intelligent algorithm that only affects those parts of the image that need it and, despite folks comments, the textures are just as in real life.

The scroll in particular is also too smooth looking

It is also out of focus

But if this is the look you like, then I can see why you carry on with it.. Even though it isn't to everyone's taste.

Thank you, I fully intend to.

to suggest that my picture is abhorrent because it was taken on Trix not only is rather condescending and rude but can I remind you that some of the world's greatest images were taken on 35mm Kodak Trix

i did not say that at all. What I said was that, to my taste, I find obvious grain to be abhorrent. You are free to create images how you prefer. Can I do the same? There really is no need to comment on lack of grain for my posts - you can always take it as intentional.

Can I re-emphasise, it is not the noise reduction that makes things appear smooth, they really were like that in real life
 
If you can't take the heat, Joanna, you know the rest, I digress, you stick with DXO, deeprime and the rest and I will carry on with my films, developers, darkroom etc, each to their own.
 
" abhorrent to my taste "
Joanna, Abhorrent is an unnecessary strong term ! It feels you insecurities regarding others thoughts about your images are a little to often resulting in quite heated reactions. Perhaps you blood pressure may be helped by counting to 10 occasionally ?
 
Well, it just goes to show that, sometimes, you need a good old argument to see the real problem.

With the fresh eyes of a new day, I examined the adjustments to see why the guy's face was so smooth and why, as @Alan Clark mentioned the wood on the scroll lacked grain.

For some inane and mysterious reason, I had added a deep orange filter :rolleyes:

So, now, with no other alterations, here is a version with the more appropriate blue filter…

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Thank you Alan.
 
By means of an addenda, Can I just make a comparison between how this website renders images, compared with the originals…

Here is a screenshot of the original in PhotoLab at 28%…

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And here is a screenshot, at the same size from this site…

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Much softer edges, which doesn't help when folks are judging whether an image is too soft or sharp.
 
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